The deadliest week for Israel since the ground incursion began a verdict in the Hague and a lot of talks and negotiations, but no word yet on a hostage deal.

It's unholy. I'm Unitlevy of Channel 12 in Tel Aviv.

And I'm Jonathan Friedland of The Guardian in London.

Thank you. of The Guardian in London. It's Unholy.

Two Jews on the News from Keshek podcast.

Yoni, we, as you've just said there,

we have got a lot of very substantial

and significant stuff to get into.

Not all of it light, I think it's fair to say.

There's some heavy duty ground to cover.

So I thought we would begin by just mentioning to our listeners something rather different,

a rather lovely message that has come in to both of us, sent to us

from a long-time listener, Gayle, in Scotland. She writes like this, hi, Bo. First, thanks for your

wonderful podcast. See, Gail knows how to begin a message. I live in Scotland and have been

listening to it with great pleasure for a long time. I recently introduced your podcast to my dad, who lives in Israel, and he too is now a devotee, so much so that every week

he asks me, have you listened to Yoni and Johnny yet? Now, I guess you wouldn't particularly

appreciate pet names, but I did think it was cute, and you are now

called that within our family. With all, of course, keep doing what you do, Gail. How, how, how, what do you

think, Yonnie? First of all, first of all, Gail, thank you for sending it our way. There have been

really not a lot of reasons to smile in the last three

and a half months. And this put a smile on both our faces. And first of all, thank you for that.

I absolutely love that. I have to say that I don't know if you know this. I mean, obviously

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