Hi, this is Hope. This is Karina. Hi, this is Katie from Washington DC and you're listening to

No Me at the radio.

Michael Cute, welcome to No Me at the radio. Thank you so much for spending a little bit of your

your day today. I emphasize to your last name because you and I have been friends for

many years now. I don't even know how long. I think so highly of you and I never pronounced your

last name, which of course is German, correct me if I'm wrong. Exactly, wrong German. So Michael

Cute of your super, welcome to the show. Hey, Matt, it's so glad to be on the show again.

Exciting you pronounced my last name correctly. It's great.

But as kids friends, right? As friends, you don't need to pronounce our last name. So just

what is your first name? It's super funny. Our chief technology officer and I go back, I don't know,

five, six years now and we've been working together daily and his last name is Jager, J-A-G-E-R.

I just always assumed it was Jager and I, you know, he's a Matt. I call him Matt. We've been

calling each other Matt for seven years. So, you know, like three or four years into it, I introduced

him to a friend and I called him Matt Jager and he corrects me. Actually, it wasn't even a friend.

It was like on our team call, like 15 people on it. I'm like, you know, I said all this beautiful

things about how long we've known each other and how close I am to him and, you know, what a great

guy he is and he corrects me, you know, and not pronouncing his last name. So now I always have

to ask, am I pronouncing your last name? Hey, we're having a small little podcast ourselves too

called what used to be called Bisex seed plans with Crystal Me interviewing some Leo,

right? Planned liberties and some other people in the plant-based world and that there's numerous

numerous times where to redo the intro because I forgot to ask for somebody's last name is pronounced

and I had to redo all things but it's not easy sometimes last name. Yep. Yep. Now, the one thing I

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