Nick Cave: Grief’s Jagged Edges

All There Is with Anderson Cooper

CNN

Society & Culture

4.8 • 8.7K Ratings

🗓️ 3 December 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Musician Nick Cave has experienced the death of two of his sons. He tells Anderson how, over time, these losses have changed his relationship with the world; expanding his heart and widening his “capacity for love.” Join the community to share your story and watch Anderson's weekly streaming show All There Is Live at cnn.com/allthereis. Host: Anderson Cooper Showrunner: Haley Thomas Producers: Chuck Hadad, Grace Walker, Emily Williams Associate Producer: Kyra Dahring Video Editor: Eric Zembrzuski Technical Director: Dan Dzula Bookers: Kerry Rubin and Kari Pricher Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	I've been thinking a lot about being with my mom at the end of her life.
0:04.3	Maybe it's because Tignitaro was on the last podcast talking about seeing her friend, poet Andrea Gibson, died.
0:10.7	My mom died in June 2019.
0:13.3	She hadn't been feeling well and I took her to the hospital.
0:16.3	That's when she was told she had cancer and didn't have much time.
0:20.1	She was silent for a while and then said,
0:22.8	well, it's like that old song. Show me the way to get out of this world because that's where
0:28.0	everything is, which I thought was a pretty cool response being told you're about to die.
0:36.4	Later, she made a joke and we both started giggling.
0:39.4	I happened to record it and it was only when I watched this later that I realized we both had the exact same giggle.
0:50.7	Is that all the latest?
0:54.5	I'd always wondered where my giggle came from.
0:57.5	Now I know it was hers all along.
1:00.1	I took my mom home, and we spent a lot of time together in her final days.
1:04.5	We held hands a lot.
1:06.4	Any of the old disappointments or resentments were gone.
1:09.6	I knew her, and she knew me.
1:12.7	Are you scared?
1:14.7	No. I'm not either.
1:19.5	I'm afraid.
1:21.1	Her voice was becoming just a whisper.
1:24.9	It's the greatest gift.
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