All right. Welcome back or welcome to the Finding Master Podcast, I'm Michael Jervay. And the idea behind these conversations

is to sit down with people who are on the path of mastery to better understand what they're

searching for and to really dive into what is their psychological framework.

And the reason that's important is so that we can have some context and some understanding about why and how they make decisions.

Oftentimes when we have conversations with people that are just wonderfully switched on,

it sounds like they say much of the same as other people that are also switched on.

And in these conversations, it's the context

and the backstory of the framework

about how they understand how the world works

and how they fit in it that really is the peeling back of the onion, if you will, to understand how they value the decisions that they make, what they've learned from those decisions, and how they orientate themselves to do things in the future.

So the center of what we're trying to get to by the end of the conversation is like,

what are the mental skills that they find to be valuable and how are they training them.

Okay and it's the how that's more than that's way more important than the what.

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