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#NewWorldReport: The worst Amazon fires in two decades. Latin American Research Professor Evan Ellis, U.S. Army War College Strategic Studies Institute. @revanellis #NewWorldReportEllis

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🗓️ 9 August 2024

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#NewWorldReport: The worst Amazon fires in two decades. Latin American Research Professor Evan Ellis, U.S. Army War College Strategic Studies Institute. @revanellis #NewWorldReportEllis

https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/fires-brazils-amazon-rainforest-july-surge-highest-two-decades-2024-08-01/

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0:00.0

I'm John Bachelor Professor Avignellis of the U.S. Army War College Strategic Studies Institute.

0:10.0

Fires in Brazil. Reuters reporting in these last days, the number of fires in Brazil's

0:16.4

Amazon Rainforest region surged to a record high for the month of July in almost two decades.

0:22.4

Satellite detector 11,400. July in almost two decades.

0:22.9

Satellite detector 11,434 fire hotspots in the Amazon in July, the largest number for that month

0:30.4

since 2005.

0:33.0

Professor Annecdote from years ago, the Amazon Forest was threatened by farmers or people who ran

0:42.1

agricultural episodes in the Amazon and the burning was to

0:46.9

clear the land and then there was money in it. You plant, you sell. The world depends upon Brazil as a bread basket. But that's

0:55.9

years ago. Is that still the driver of these fires? Thank you.

1:01.4

That is still the case, John.

1:03.0

The fires right now, or at least the record number of fires are a product of two reinforcing things.

1:09.0

On the one hand, the northeast part of the Amazon is indeed experiencing a particularly dry climate, which facilitates

1:16.5

wildfires just as it does in Chile and California in other places. But at the same time, you also

1:22.3

have this continuing pressure of marginalized populations, not the wealthy farmers, but those farmers who are looking for to carve out a little bit of land to raise cattle and do other things on.

1:34.3

And so one of the tried and trued ways of clearing land, if you want to do that,

1:39.6

is to just start accidentally a wildfire and burn the land to clear it.

1:44.5

And so to some degree those fires reflect, you know, those in search of land for

1:50.8

making a livelihood, setting fires is a part of clearing land.

1:55.8

So you bring those two together and you have the current situation, even though

2:00.2

the Lula administration has stepped up enforcement of forced regulations through their

2:06.0

Forest Service, Embari, I believe is the name of it.

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