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#NewWorldReport: Evo Morales and #Peru. Senadora Maria Fernanda Cabal. @MariaFdaCabal (on leave) Joseph Humire @JMHumire @SecureFreeSoc https://www.securefreesociety.org.Ernesto Araujo, Former Foreign Minister Republic of Brazil.

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🗓️ 31 January 2023

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#NewWorldReport: Evo Morales and #Peru. Senadora Maria Fernanda Cabal. @MariaFdaCabal (on leave) Joseph Humire @JMHumire @SecureFreeSoc https://www.securefreesociety.org.Ernesto Araujo, Former Foreign Minister Republic of Brazil.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/10/evo-morales-barred-peru-bolivia-pedro-castillo

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0:00.0

This is the New World Report. I'm John Batchewith, my colleagues, Ernesto Arocio, former

0:09.1

foreign minister of the Republic of Brazil, and Joseph Oomar, the executive director of

0:13.6

the Center for Free Society. Just if I come to you because the protests these last weeks

0:19.6

have not abd and the protests are concentrated, we're told in the Indian Highlands. These

0:26.2

are people who very much support Castillo, who remains detained, and who are associated

0:34.0

with exploitation for centuries, not just these last years. We're also dealing with a country

0:40.4

that is rich in natural resources. Copper is everywhere, as I'm told you can kick

0:46.1

a rock in Peru and make money with it. So these protests and these violence, who supports

0:52.7

it, or is it homegrown? In other words, these are indigenous people protesting, although

0:58.2

they're protesting the capital as well. Ernesto points to outside actors, and I point

1:03.9

to Eva Morales, of Bolivia. Does the upset, the turmoil, the inability of Peru to settle

1:10.9

down, does that suit Morales? What is his ambition in this whole region, given that his country

1:18.8

very much has entangled itself? I don't know what the right word is with Castillo. So what

1:25.6

is Morales want to your measure, Joseph? Well, John, I think the, what's happening in

1:31.8

Peru, obviously, has its local dimension, local elements, but really it's becoming a conflict

1:38.2

with high levels of foreign intervention and foreign disinformation. Among that is obviously

1:43.4

Bolivia and Eva Morales, and I'll touch on that in a second, but I think there are other

1:47.5

actors as well that are amplifying the instability inside the country. At our West Johannesburg

1:53.2

security forum that we held on January 19th, we had virtually the participation of a

1:58.1

Congresswoman from Peru, her name is Adediana Tudela, and she gave about a three minute

2:03.4

video remarks about the situation in Peru, which is available on our website now. And

2:08.5

one of the things she said really caught my attention, she said that this is a conflict

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