I could not do this work without working with citizens in the community, working with other citizens and other environmental groups, and just knowing that there are so many good people behind the scenes.

Hi, everyone. Welcome to How to Not Lose Your Shit.

I'm LaFonda Cousin, a part-time yoga instructor, self-care advocate, and the chief people

officer here at Red Wine and Blue.

And I'm Katie Paris, the founder of Red Wine and Blue, which, by the way, we are an organization

of more than half a million diverse women working to change the world together.

At Red Wine and Blue, we help women organize in their local communities and make meaningful connections,

even in this moment of political chaos.

This week, I talked to Kathy and Annette to women in Ohio who have been working to stop an AI data center in their neighborhood.

Data centers are becoming an issue around the country, but I think a lot of us don't know that much about what a data center is, why it's a problem.

So I'm glad we got a chance to hear from Kathy and Annette because it was very

informative to me. Did a little Googling yesterday. I'll probably do a little more research because

I hear about data centers. There's so many going up. I think Kathy said there's 118 right now in Central Ohio. And so it was

really helpful for me to learn why this is an issue and what they are doing to sort of push back a

little bit on this. So what did you get from this conversation, Katie? Well, I mean, talk about a moment of chaos.

Like, to me, the velocity with which these AI data centers are being built throughout

our communities, oftentimes completely unbeknownst to the people they're going to directly

impact. Like, it's chaotic. It's overwhelming. You combine that with the fact that, you know, these are coming in to power AI, which I think that we as people, humans, moms, trying to parent right now and understand the role of our AI in our lives and our kids' lives. Like, it's just, it's overwhelming. Pair that with the fact that I didn't even know about an AI data center, like, for real. And I mean, I definitely didn't a year ago. I can't remember exactly when I started hearing about them. But now I hear about them all the time. And so as chaotic and overwhelming is this issue seen, I'm so glad and like, you did such a

great job of this interview and I'm grateful to you for doing it because I think it's something that

we all need to know about. And one of the things that stuck out most to me about the interview was,

here I am thinking like, oh, our listener is going to be like overwhelmed by this.

Like maybe they haven't heard much about it either yet.

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