Rest in community is the self-care.

Yeah, 100% resting community.

You've solved it for everyone.

Put it on a t-shirt.

Everybody gets one.

Yes, please.

We came to make a change.

Hi, everyone.

Welcome to How to Not Lose Your Shit.

I am LaFonda Cousin, part-time yoga instructor, self-care advocate, and the chief people officer here at Red Wine and Blue.

And I'm Katie Parris, the founder of Red Wine and Blue.

This week, we are joined by Amelia Nagoski.

She wrote a book with her twin sister, Emily, called Burnout, The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle.

I think a lot of people, especially women in activism, are experiencing burnout right now. So it's super

helpful to hear from an expert about how we can stay engaged while not losing our shit.

Katie, you heard Amelia and Emily on some of your favorite podcast before this, like, we can do hard things, which we know that you love. What was it

like getting to talk to Amelia directly and hear from her about burnout? It was absolutely incredible. So you know when you

listen to a podcast where you're getting a lot out of it, but you're sort of having to make a lot

of mental leaps, like sort of applying the conversation you're hearing to your own life. And you're

like, I think it applies like this. Let me see if I can draw this line here. I constantly listen to

things and not only applying it to my own life, but to red, wine and blue, to activism, to the

problem you're trying to solve, to getting, you know, inviting more women into community

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