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Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

Nazi Salutes = Free Speech? with John Safran

Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

Josh Szeps

Comedy Interviews, Education, Society & Culture, Comedy, Self-improvement

4.5905 Ratings

🗓️ 10 May 2026

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

Is anything too offensive for our post-cancel-culture world? When Trump & Elon wield "freedom of speech" as a way to silence their enemies, who's defending unpopular voices? When anti-Zionism, anti-Semitism and Islamophobia can be weapons, how do we decide what's beyond the pale? John Safran is Australia's Michael Moore, a provocateur and writer whose new documentary is ‘Shut Your Big Fat Mouth’. As a Jew, he interviews neo-Nazis, conspiracists and porn stars to understand what open expression means in a chaotic and hostile world. 'Shut Your Big Fat Mouth John Safran’ premieres Sunday 24 May at 7:30pm on SBS, and streams free on SBS On Demand.

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I just don't feel in 2026 in Australia, in the light of things that have happened,

0:04.9

that I'm going to be the edgy Jew who's going to be like,

0:08.0

oh, you know what, you can hail Hitler a Jew and it's free speech.

0:13.2

Like, I'm just not going to be such an idiot.

0:17.9

Gaii, humans.

0:19.3

Welcome to the safe space for dangerous ideas.

0:22.6

Is a Nazi salute free speech?

0:25.8

This is one of the many questions being wrestled with by today's guest.

0:29.6

He is one of the most celebrated and influential bad boys of Australian media,

0:34.6

a provocateur, a satirist, a radio host, a documentary maker, sort of like a young

0:40.5

Michael Moore. He's known for television shows like John Safran versus God, race around the world,

0:46.9

and for 10 years he hosted a Sunday night radio show called Sunday Night Saffran with a Catholic

0:53.1

priest. Some of his previous exploits look and sound

0:57.4

like this.

0:58.4

Why am I doing this? From streaking through Jerusalem to taking part in Native American rituals.

1:04.9

I've made a career out of blasphemy and offense. So that's John S Safran. And just before I tell you a little more about

1:12.3

today's episode, a huge thank you to our Substack subscribers. You keep the lights on, you keep this

1:17.0

show running. If you've ever considered subscribing to the show, do hop over to Uncomfortableconversations.

1:21.7

com. And chip in a few shekels. If you are a free subscriber, then you're missing out on at least

1:28.5

one free episode per week, and if you pay, you never, ever, ever hear an ad. Anyway, where will we? Back to

1:35.4

John Safran, and in his latest one-hour documentary, he explores the idea of offendedness,

1:41.5

offensive speech, offensive gestures, what we should outlaw, what we should not.

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