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Vladimir Putin is testing NATO borders, writes the London Telegraph.

James Rothwell and Roland Ulfant reporting.

Testing NATO Borders, why?

For weak spots security chiefs ward.

Subhead in the Telegraph,

Frontier disputes with Estonia and Finland could be prelude to Russian bid to

seize control in Baltic after overcoming Ukraine.

I welcome Avana Stradner of the Foundation for the Defense of democracies, writing in the

Telegraph some days past on this very point, although a longer list.

Avana, a very good evening to you, you are, you present the case that

Vladimir Putin once he has conquered Ukraine will go looking for other places to push, push very hard.

What is your list?

The telegraph mentions Estonia and Finland.

Are there more countries that are at risk in your measure?

Good evening to you.

Good evening, thank you very much for inviting me.

Look, whoever believes that Putin is going to stop at Ukraine is sorely mistaken,

because Putin has much larger goals for if we want to win this war we have to see

it through Putin's eyes and Putin is also an ideologue and in addition to Ukraine he also wants to show that the West is a paper

tiger especially NATO and recently NATO has warned about Russia's hybrid warfare activities which are right below the

threshold of war so they do not regard to call five. But putting has been on this

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