Nathaniel Peters, The Nature of Murder and Evil in Andrew Klavan's "The Kingdom of Cain" Nathaniel Peters reviews Andrew Klavan's "The Kingdom of Cain," which explores murder and evil through fiction and real-life examples. Klavan, a former atheist, was
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🗓️ 6 September 2025
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Nathaniel Peters, The Nature of Murder and Evil in Andrew Klavan's "The Kingdom of Cain"
Nathaniel Peters reviews Andrew Klavan's "The Kingdom of Cain," which explores murder and evil through fiction and real-life examples. Klavan, a former atheist, was propelled to faith by Klavan, a former atheist, was propelled to faith by pondering evil, suggesting that recognizing objective moral order is necessary to condemn acts like those of the Marquis de Sade. The book examines Leopold and Loeb, who murdered to prove their superiority and live beyond good and evil, but left a crucial clue, highlighting their human fallibility. Klavan also considers Dostoevsky's Raskolnikov, whose rationalized yet pointless murder leads to a breakdown of his self-deception. Klavan argues artistic creation, like Michelangelo's Pietà, can redeem or transform the subject of art.
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| 0:32.4 | This is CBS, I and the World. I'm John Bachelor. Murder. Murder is the topic, but goodness is the ambition. I welcome Nathaniel Peters, writing most recently at Civitas Outlook for Civitas Institute about a new book, The Legacy of Kane, by a man named Claibon. |
| 0:43.5 | And the book explores well-known characters from fiction, from nonfiction, from art, great art. |
| 0:51.2 | McElangelo is featured. |
| 0:54.1 | And it involves itself with what isElangelo is featured. |
| 1:00.9 | And it involves itself with what is good, what is evil, and is murder something we can talk about rationally, where does it come from, what is to be done, how did Christian thinkers |
| 1:05.8 | deal with the topic as well? |
| 1:08.6 | Nathaniel, in other words, takes us into, takes us by the hand and takes us into the seriousness |
| 1:13.7 | of murder. |
| 1:15.7 | Nathaniel Peters is the director of the Morningside Institute, a contributing editor for |
| 1:20.7 | public discourse. |
| 1:22.2 | Nathaniel, a very good evening to you. |
| 1:23.8 | Thank you very much. |
| 1:24.7 | You have read a book, I have not. |
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