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scientist. He worked at the Ames Research Center in the Intelligence Systems Division. This episode is a perfect example of how we can blend skepticism, curiosity, criticism with open-mindedness, and the ability to open our conscious experience of what is here and now into a possible understanding of what is beyond what we can see and measure. We're going to be discussing some of the most compelling data out there in terms of speed, acceleration, the amount of power required to even be able to imagine how UAPs would travel. Dr. Canuth is also going to walk us through the statistically significant and disturbing reports of UFO sightings surrounding military and nuclear activity. What is going on? What should we be concerned about and where do we go to get the information about what happens next? We're going to talk about who we can trust with this information. We're going to touch on the unique characteristics of three eye atlas, research that's being done to test actual debris from crash sites and what we can learn from that. We're also going to talk about the water world hypothesis. What would it mean to imagine that aliens might not be traveling from other places, but might actually be here already and they might be underwater. You're going to want to make sure you listen to the very, very end of this episode where we ask Dr. Canuth what has personally happened to him that makes him believe that the study of UAPs is scientifically not only necessary, but critical to our understanding of our humanity. Before we welcome Dr. Knuth, you can find out more about his research at albany.edu-giving-uapx if you want to learn more about what it means to support this kind of research. Dr. Kevin Knuth, welcome to the breakdown. Break it down. Hello, thank you so much for having me. I'd like you to give us a framework of why you do what you do in terms of your study of UAPs. I was born in 1965, so I was four years old with the Apollo moon landing, so I remember them. I remember my dad holding me just after we watched it on TV and pointing up at the moon and saying there are people up there and that had such a huge impact on me and so I was thrilled to see Artemis to go around the moon 1977. I was I was what 12 years old and that's when Star Wars came out which of course had a huge impact and and at the same time at night what what, 630 at night they would play in search of with Leonard Neymoy. And in search of always had some UFO things, which were always exciting and interesting. Went to graduate school at Montana State University and got my master's degree in physics there. And when I first moved out there that would have been late summer of 1988, I'd been living out there for about a week or so and classes had just started and there was a cattle mutilation in Boseman on a ranch. That night there were what 100 phone calls to the sheriff's office about UFOs. And then you have this cattle mutilation

where there were two cows that were killed

and surgically manipulated.

It was very bizarre.

And this was all over the news

and people were worried that it's aliens

or it's Satanists and those were the two explanations

that was the two hypotheses everybody ran to, right right and we were discussing this in the physics department and the some of the new students worse you know we've all you've been to grad school so you know what you you move to a new place you're gonna be you're gonna be there for five years so the conversation was kind of more center what kind of crazy place So we all just moved to? And how are we going to navigate this, right? And it was a pretty heated discussion. And one of the professors came out of his office to see what the commotion was. Clearly, we had bothered him and and we told him and he didn't have any words of comfort for us. In fact, it was a leave of stranger. He said, yeah, yeah, that happens from time to time. And they're off in UFO sightings when that happens. But we look at people looking into it and they never figured out and then people forget about it until it happens again. And I was like, well, that's enough for a satisfactory. And then he taps it all off with this additional statement. He goes, you know why I have friends who work up who are in the Air Force who work up at Moamstrom Air Force Base in Northern Montana and they have problems there with UFOs flying over the nuclear missile sites and shutting down our nuclear missiles. And you know we listen politelyitely and when he walked away, to be honest, we laughed out, that's off because it was hard to imagine that that's even possible, right? The UFOs are shutting down our nuclear missiles and our government isn't on high alert, I mean, this isn't at all over the place. So we, nobody really believed that and that kind of became a running joke for the year. Anytime somebody would say something strange happened, somebody else would chime in, yeah, but you know it's really strange. UFOs are shutting down nuclear missiles and bombs from Air Force Base and we would all laugh. And so that stuck with me until I was here at UAlbany teaching and it's what have been about 2015 or so. So it's before the New York Times article still by Wesley Cain and Ralph Blumenthal and I mean Cooper. And so it was before that and I was teaching a course in astronomy and preparing for a lecture on astrobiology and possibility of life elsewhere. And some of my students wanted me to talk about UFOs. And I didn't want to talk about except the break equation or the very paradox. So, I was just poking around on the internet to think about, is there anything intelligent I can actually say? And I stumbled on a, the press conference held by Robert Hastings in 2010, where he had five or six people from the Air Force talking about UFO incursions at nuclear missile sites. And the first person that he talked to was Robert Salas, who was at Moms from Air Force Base. And I got that, I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. I heard about this 30 years ago, right? It was, I heard about this when I was in grad school from a physics professor. And it just hit me like, you know, a ton of bricks, like, wait a minute. This is very possibly real. And what, and nobody's doing anything about it, nobody's even knows about it. And this could be incredibly dangerous. And it just, I was very concerned on hearing this. And then I was high state up, I watched the whole press conference, which like two or three hours. I don't think I went to bed to like three a.m. that night

to get up early for class.

It struck me so that somebody needs to look into this

and see if this is really real.

And so I started just paying attention.

I was paying attention.

I started reading up on the topic

and getting anything that I could,

that seemed reasonable.

And then when the New York Times article came out to talking about the RAA tip program, then I thought, yeah, this scientist need to be involved. Somebody needs to be studying these things. And so I decided to try to study it. Well, I don't know what I can do, but I thought, let's first I'll do my homework. Let's just do what you should do. So we have a set. I found there were a set of encounters where they had descriptions of how fast these objects were moving. And I thought, well, at least at the very least, I can estimate speeds and accelerations and get some idea of what we're dealing with here. And that really shocked me that the speeds and accelerations were crazy. I mean, crazy huge. The observers would have to be very, very, very wrong for those numbers to be anywhere close to that. So I found that really amazing. Mine be Alex Breakdown is supported by optimizers. I struggled to get good quality sleep and I just thought like, oh, it's stress. But I learned during perimenopause and menopause, your hormones shift, and it affects your magnesium levels. Low magnesium makes everything harder, not just sleep, but focus, mood, stress tolerance. That's why we added magnesium breakthrough by by optimizers to our nightly routine. It's a blend of seven different forms of magnesium designed to support relaxation and overall sleep quality. Try it, see if you wake up more rested and refreshed. You've got nothing to lose and a lot to gain. Bi optimizers offers a 365 day, no questions asked, money back guarantee. Magnesium breakthrough is a fantastic way to improve that hormonal imbalance that especially happens with magnesium. And then you have better focus, you have better sleep hygiene in general. Bi optimizers makes it so easy. Here's what you get when you go to bioptimizers.com slash breaker and use the code breaker. 15% off your entire order and a free bottle of mass signs. That's bi optimizers best selling digestive enzyme added to your order automatically when you use our exclusive code. That's a $20 product free on top of your discount. This is a limited time offer while supplies last you cannot get this on Amazon. You can't get it in stores. The offer exists in one place. Our link our code. That's it. So if you were already thinking about trying it, this is the sign. Go to buyoptimizers.com slash breakerer, use the code breaker, grab it before it's gone. Make 2026 the year you finally start sleeping again. This episode is sponsored by Wondering Jews, an open door media brand. If you've ever found yourself feeling like you have more questions than answers, you're in good company. The Jewish people have been like that for thousands of years. Wondering Jews with Michal and Noam is a podcast where two of today's most dynamic Jewish

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