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The Interview

N. Ram: Freedom of expression in India

The Interview

BBC

News, Government, Politics

4.3537 Ratings

🗓️ 24 February 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Stephen Sackur speaks to one of India’s most influential media voices, N. Ram, director of the Hindu Publishing Group. With independent journalists complaining of intimidation and social media facing new curbs, is freedom of expression under threat in the world’s biggest democracy?

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Hard Talk from the BBC World Service with me, Stephen Sacker.

0:04.3

Today I'm in Delhi and my guest is one of India's best-known media figures, Enram,

0:10.3

director of the Hindu Publishing Group.

0:13.1

His home base is Chennai, home of the venerable Hindu newspaper,

0:17.5

which has been a family-owned institution for more than a century

0:20.7

and which now forms

0:21.7

part of a wider media, tech and property business. But for Ram, as he likes to be known,

0:27.6

it's always been about the journalism. His scoops exposing corruption in Indian defense procurement

0:34.0

won him a host of awards going back to the late 1980s. As an editor and media executive,

0:40.0

he's always seen it as his role to hold those in power to account. But in recent years,

0:45.7

independent investigative journalism in India has come under enormous pressure. A decade of BJP rule

0:52.5

has seen much of the mainstream media become closely aligned

0:56.1

with the agenda of Prime Minister Narendra Modi. Journalists challenging the official narrative

1:01.4

have experienced intimidation and much worse. The government has also pushed through legislation

1:07.2

giving it unprecedented powers over digital platforms and online content. On the face of it,

1:13.7

the world's most populous democracy would still appear to have a vibrant information culture

1:18.9

with a multitude of newspapers, TV news networks and hundreds of millions of users of social media.

1:25.6

But in today's India, is it really possible to speak truth to power?

1:30.1

Well, Enram joins me now. Welcome to Hard Talk. It's a pleasure, Stephen. Well, it's a great pleasure

1:35.5

to talk to you. Your journalistic career seems to me to symbolize the vigor, the vibrancy of the Indian

1:42.4

media scene. You began your career, let's say, in the late 60s.

1:46.4

You're still hard at it today at the Hindu publishing group. It's a positive story, isn't it?

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