Laila Soueif and Sanaa Seif: Hunger for freedom
The Interview
BBC
4.3 • 537 Ratings
🗓️ 19 February 2025
⏱️ 23 minutes
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Summary
Stephen Sackur speaks to Laila Soueif, mother of Alaa Abdel Fattah, a political prisoner in Egypt and Alaa’s sister Sanaa Seif. Laila is into the fifth month of a hunger strike in a desperate bid to win her son’s freedom. Alaa is a dual British-Egyptian citizen – should the UK be doing more to help?
(Photo: Egyptian activist Laila Soueif gives a statement to the media outside Downing Street about her son, Alaa Abdel Fattah, in London, 10 February 2025. Credit: Tolga Akmen/EPA)
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Hard Talk from the BBC World Service with me, Stephen Sacker. In this interview recorded on the 17th of February, |
| 0:07.9 | I'm joined by two guests, a mother and daughter, united by one all-consuming ambition to somehow win the release of a son, |
| 0:17.1 | a brother, imprisoned for his dissenting political views in Egypt. |
| 0:22.0 | Allah Abdufata is that prisoner. |
| 0:24.6 | He's a civil society campaigner and pro-democracy activist, |
| 0:28.4 | who was an enthusiastic participant in the uprising which toppled President Mubarak back in |
| 0:34.4 | 2011. |
| 0:35.5 | Three years later, General Abdul Fattah Al-Sisi seized power and |
| 0:39.9 | Allah Abdufata was imprisoned for organizing an illegal protest. He was released from prison in |
| 0:46.8 | 2019, only to be re-arrested six months later for allegedly spreading fake news. In late |
| 0:54.0 | 2021, he was sentenced to five years in prison. |
| 0:57.3 | The authorities refused to count the two years of detention that he'd endured before the |
| 1:02.8 | conclusion of his trial. Now, his mother, Leila, is in the fifth month of a hunger strike |
| 1:08.7 | in a desperate bid to win his freedom. Doctors believe her |
| 1:12.7 | condition will soon be life-threatening. She's joined in her campaign and in this interview by her |
| 1:19.3 | daughter Sana, herself three times imprisoned by the Egyptian government for her pro-democracy |
| 1:25.2 | activism. Their base is now Britain. Allah himself is a dual British and |
| 1:30.6 | Egyptian citizen. But is there sufficient will in Britain and the West to confront Egypt over this case |
| 1:38.4 | and Egypt's wider repression of political dissent? Well, Leila Swaf and Sana Saif, join me now. Welcome both of you to |
| 1:47.6 | hard talk. Thank you for our bigness. Oh, it is a pleasure to have you. Layla, I am going to start with |
| 1:52.9 | you. You are in the fifth month of a hunger strike, a hunger strike that is aimed to put pressure |
| 1:59.9 | to win the release of your son currently |
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