Hi and welcome to the Working Songwriter.

The show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop, I'm your host, Joe Pug.

Each episode here we host a distinguished guest and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration

on their process on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So whether you're a grizzled veteran, playing dinner theaters in the suburbs to keep your

six piece band working or else a scrappy upstart, playing DIY shows in basements that are not

up to fire code.

This is your show because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most, an iron clad

excuse to put off, actually writing.

Hey everybody, it's the first Friday of May 2023 and I thank you for joining us.

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