Hi and welcome to the Working Songwriter. The show where today's best songwriters come

to talk shop, I'm your host Joe Pug. Each episode here we host a distinguished guest

and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and

downs of making a life in music. So, whether you're a grizzled veteran writing a vicious

email to your day-to-day manager about the subpar catering at the amphitheater or else

a scrappy upstart, begging the promoter for more than a ten dollar dinner buyout. This

is your show because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most and ironclad excuse

to put off, actually writing.

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