Greetings and welcome back to the Jason Gattis podcast.

I am Jason.

What's up?

Today I'm going to talk about my role as husband and father and why it matters so much to me,

because there's a lot of dads that listen to this podcast,

a lot of husbands, a lot of would-be dads,

and a lot of women who maybe want their guy to step up

or be different or something.

So remember, I'm the guy that said, I have no interest in getting married and I have no

interest in kids.

But that was coming from my strategic self, the part of me that didn't want responsibility,

that wanted to stay a boy, that didn't want, I wanted to stay a boy that didn't want um just was terrified of

intimacy and i had a pretty disconnected childhood so why would i want to create more of that you know

and now it's the greatest accomplishment of my life, being a dad and being a husband and being a family dude.

It's just so meaningful to me.

It's where it's at. So my role as father actually

starts with my role as husband and partner and teammate. I strive to be an awesome teammate and I

fall down sometimes.

Sometimes I'm, I get scared and I go into my cocoon or shell.

And I, you know, at times in my partnership, I've forgot that Ellen is there for me.

And I've just sort of done my own thing.

And then it ends up hurting her later.

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