Murdering Mom Serves Poison Wine at Thanksgiving Dinner: 1 Daughter DEAD, 2 Wounded
Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan
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🗓️ 11 February 2026
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
Leela Livis, 32, dies after having Thanksgiving dinner with her mom. Her sister, Mia Lacey, and Mia's boyfriend, Richard Pegg, hospitalized but survive. It wasn't bad turkey, it was Bad Mom. Gudrun Linda Jean Casper-Leinenkugel, 52, charged with first degree murder in the death of daughter Leela, and two counts of attempted murder of Mia and Richard. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss how the matriarch of the family conducted internet searches for "what happens if I accidentally ingest acetronile?" and "does wine turn into cyanide?" Joe Scott explains how the poison investigation also caused the 2007 death of Michael Schmidt to be re-examined, turns out Schmidt might not have died in a house fire, it looks like he was poisoned by "Bad Mom" as well.
Transcribe Highlights
00:00.28 Introduction Thanksgiving
04:51.38 Murder and attempted murder at Thanksgiving
09:58.33 Cyanide poisoning
14:52.42 Industrial solvent, turns to cyanide when ingested
20:09.64 Poisoning everyone in the house
25:16.95 Tox screen
30:00.16 Was one person the target?
35:17.36 Killing your own child
40:31.69 Conclusion
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.5 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:05.7 | Bodybacks with Joseph Scott Moore. |
| 0:09.8 | Out of all of the holidays on the calendar, by far, it's not even close. |
| 0:17.2 | Thanksgiving is my favorite. |
| 0:19.6 | And, you know, I like it. |
| 0:22.3 | I think the food is grand. |
| 0:24.4 | And I've had some fantastic meals over the years. |
| 0:30.6 | And again, I'll go ahead and beat my chest over that. |
| 0:33.0 | I am from Louisiana, by the way. |
| 0:34.6 | So I think that we do Thanksgiving best. |
| 0:37.5 | You know, moisture dressing. |
| 0:40.9 | Duck. |
| 0:41.6 | We always had duck. |
| 0:43.0 | Several ducks. |
| 0:45.4 | Of course, turkey, ham. |
| 0:47.6 | Simone B. Fried. |
| 0:50.1 | Deep fried. |
| 0:52.0 | Turkeys, you know, baked, you know, smoked ham. It just goes on and on. And there's a, |
| 0:59.0 | kind of an interesting way in South Louisiana. We do Thanksgiving. Meantimes it served outdoors. |
| 1:06.1 | The cooking is done outdoors, at least for my family, and the spread is massive. And we would always have tons and tons of people over there. I really enjoyed it, but I enjoyed the fellowship of it too. Because you get to see people you don't normally see. There's no pressure from giving gifts. That's one of the things I don't like about Christmas. You're just there. And you have conversations. Of course, there's always that interesting uncle that comes out of the woodwork every now and then. But, you know, you pat him on his head and you send him on his way. But today I want to talk about a case out of North Carolina. And the nature of this case involves one of my favorite holidays, or my favorite |
| 1:49.8 | holiday Thanksgiving. And guess what else? It involves a bottle of wine and cyanide. |
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