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Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

911 Call: Man Burning Alive! Partner Flees Scene Before Help Arrives, Copper Theft Arc Flash!

Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

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True Crime

4.72.1K Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2026

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

On July 17, at 5:13 a.m., Molly Hubbard called 911 to report a man on fire in the street.

During the 911 call, a man can be heard in the background moaning while Hubbard shouts at him to "drop and roll."

Then, the line disconnected.

Police and EMS arrive on the scene and find Ryan Crawford suffering from severe burns to his face, arms, legs, and backside.

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack examine the story told to 911. and the story told by the forensics to explain why Molly Hubbard was arrested and charged with murder.


Transcribe Highlights
00:05.21 Introduction - Wichita

04:02.49 Death in the middle of a theft

09:05.35 May have given Crawford something to calm him down

14:42.20 Molly Hubbard left scene

20:03.02 Death with fire is complex

25:16.54 Electrocution victim, one small point of entry

30:26.37 Story lacks credibility

35:34.81 Degree of burns

40:21.14 Burn victims body swell, requires splitting

45:14.94 Molly Hubbard sold scrap metal while cohort in hospital

47:02.26 Conclusion

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed Human.

0:05.7

Quality Facts with Joseph Scott Moore.

0:09.8

I've been to Wichita one time.

0:12.1

It's kind of an interesting story.

0:14.3

There was a guy by the name of Dr. William Eckert.

0:19.5

And Dr. Eckert had a long and stored career as a firm's pathologist, and I was working

0:24.8

in New Orleans at the time.

0:27.0

And I guess it was in the 89.

0:30.9

There was a massive tornado that ripped through that area.

0:35.8

As a matter of fact, it's been well documented over the years.

0:39.2

For the reason of there was a reporter that went beneath a overpass or some people call them

0:46.8

a viaduct and they had the camera rolling as that tornado swept across the top.

0:58.0

Now the reason I was involved up there is that at the time Dr. Eckerd thought that they had perhaps over 200 dead. It turned out that though still tragic,

1:08.6

it was the number was much less.

1:13.7

I like the people up there.

1:18.4

You can learn a lot about people in an area when they're under stress.

1:24.2

I've always wanted to go back, but haven't made it yet.

1:32.2

But today, we're going to talk about a case out of Wichita that's come across my desk,

1:43.0

and it's involving a single death. A single death that is so incredibly bizarre, and you know,

1:49.5

up to this date, Brother Dave and I have yet to talk about a case involving this specific mechanism. I'll give you a hint. Ben Franklin.

2:05.9

I'm Joseph Scott Morgan, and this is Bodypads.

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