We knew we were going to die, so we lied down and I remember praying out of desperation,

but really, to be honest, deep inside my heart, I knew this was the end of it, this was the end of my story, and then God did a miracle, really.

Welcome, everybody. This is Simon Gilbo with Inspired. And this week, I'm incredibly excited

because I've got an old Burundian friend of mine called Teodor Mbazumutima. Welcome, Theo.

Thank you, Simon. It's good to talk to you today.

Theo and I met at All Nations, Christian College

in England, in about, what was it, 2003. So you were over studying. Yes. And you've got,

well, we'll get to your incredible story in a second. And then an interesting link that you

won't know is that just up the road from me about 300 yards away

is your PhD supervisor, Lucy Hovel.

And so it just turns out in the whole of England that we are a couple of 100 yards away.

And I asked her about you and she said, wow, he is a super impressive, very intelligent person.

So there you go.

That's encouraging, isn't it?

Wow. That's good. Yes. Thank you. Now, listen, everybody, we have just got an unbelievable story

coming up. I mean, Theo is alive. He's had nine lives and more than that in terms of the grace

of God in his life. So let's just get straight into it. And I have zero doubt that you're going

to be properly inspired.

So Theo, let's just go right back and well maybe a bit on childhood and then let's get quickly

to the events of the genocide in 1993. So a bit on your childhood?

Oh yeah. I grew up in the southern part of Burundi in a place called Rutanah and so from a family of peasant agriculturist

my father having been a victim of previous genocides in 1972 and then he managed to survive by really God's grace but he couldn't continue to

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