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The Oath and The Office

Mueller Warned Congress. Trump Celebrated His Death.

The Oath and The Office

Corey Brettschneider

Government, News, Politics

4.9 • 591 Ratings

🗓️ 26 March 2026

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Trump’s reaction to Robert Mueller’s death was grotesque. But the deeper question is what Congress failed to do when Mueller was alive: why didn’t it impeach Trump based on the Mueller report? Corey Brettschneider and John Fugelsang revisit Mueller’s findings, the Nixon parallel, and the constitutional failure that still shapes Trump’s presidency.

Then: a major Supreme Court voting-rights case out of Mississippi, ICE at airports as a new front in Trump’s immigration crackdown, and a federal judge’s ruling against Pentagon restrictions on defense reporters.

Plus, a listener from the U.K. asks a question many Americans are asking too: could Trump really defy the Constitution and try for a third term?

This week’s episode connects the week’s biggest legal and political stories into one urgent question: how many constitutional guardrails are still holding?

Learn more about the ACLU and its upcoming Supreme Court case at aclu.org/barbara.

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0:00.0

This episode of The Oath in the Office is sponsored by the ACLU.

0:12.9

Welcome to another episode of The Oath and the Office.

0:16.1

I am John Fuglesang.

0:17.6

We've got a great one planned for you today.

0:19.6

The truth about Robert Mueller behind

0:22.2

the petulant tantrum distractions. Ice is in our airports. Is this really about the midterms? And

0:28.5

big news out of Mississippi about the future of voting by mail. For more, let's go to the star

0:34.8

of our show, the author of The Oath and the Office,

0:42.4

the pride of the Polyside Department at Brown University, Professor Corey Boomb-Berget Schneider.

0:43.2

Corey, welcome.

0:44.0

It's good to see you, sir.

0:45.2

Thanks, John.

0:47.4

I appreciate the new nickname every week.

0:52.6

I look forward to these introductions, as ridiculous and wonderful as they are.

0:55.9

We've also got a lot of stories to talk about,

1:01.9

and most important on that list, I'd say, up front is correcting the record on Robert Mueller,

1:08.6

who's really been maligned and slammed. And really, the story of the truth of the matter and uncovering it is the key to uncovering and rescuing our democracy.

1:13.6

Well, let's jump off on that point then, because this is a man who spent his life serving this country

1:18.6

and then was insulted in death by a petulant child who treats the Constitution like something he gives a one-star Yelp review to.

1:26.6

Robert Mueller was a decorated Marine, a

1:28.6

purple heart recipient, a lifelong public servant. And Donald Trump responded to his death at age 81,

1:35.4

you know, like a drunk guy getting kicked out of a casino, right? Like, oh, I'm glad he's dead. You know,

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