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This is CBSI in the world. I'm John Bachelord, debt.

D-E-B-T, debt. It worries the American household doesn't worry.

The nation's capital, particularly the members of Congress.

We all worry about it, so we go to Vernique de Rige of the Mercatus Center,

whose column at the Crater Syndicate is extremely worrisome.

If you understand that debt gets worse, it doesn't get better,

given the commitments of the American people to foreign affairs, the two wars in Eurasia,

and to the future of our country to educate and to provide for people in their seniority.

Vernique, a very good evening to you. My fact here says $25.8 trillion is the present debt.

In 10 years, best case scenario, in 10 years, that will grow to $45 trillion debt.

What happens that it's going to grow 20 trillion? Good evening, John.

What happens is that we're spending a lot of money well above what was projected.

But also well above what we're collecting in taxes.

And that we have known for a long time that we needed to address entitlement spending

and that it was going to become overwhelming.

And this is what's happening. But this is also, this is a best case scenario,

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