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You're listening to The Nocturnous Conversations. I'm Emily Silverman.

In today's episode, we speak to a physician about her remarkable family history,

her journey to uncover the racism that influences medicine, and her relentless quest to build a more equitable health care.

Her name is Dr. Uche Blackstock, and she's a Harvard-trained emergency medicine doctor,

fierce advocate for racial justice, and entrepreneur whose consulting company advancing health equity is reshaping the way we address racism in health care today.

Uche is also the author of the New York Times best-selling generational memoir, Legacy,

a black physician reckons with racism in medicine.

In my conversation with Uche, we talked about her mother, a nephrologist, who paved the way for Uche and her sister

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