Movie Diversity Test (2021 Rerun)
Psychology In Seattle Podcast
Kirk Honda
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🗓️ 17 March 2026
⏱️ 78 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | So, Burdo and Colin, do you know what the Bechdel test is? What is the Bechdel test, Berto? What do you think? |
| 0:08.0 | If a movie or maybe just a story does a female character appropriately, or if it's, you know, |
| 0:14.3 | like if the female characters, you sort of like as a throwaway character or it's just like a romantic |
| 0:18.8 | interest or that. So there's a whole bunch of questions of like |
| 0:22.0 | does the movie do this does the movie do that and the fact is most movies don't actually use |
| 0:26.5 | female characters in a useful meaningful way Colin is that your understanding yeah my understanding |
| 0:31.9 | was more specific than that I thought it was two female characters had to discuss something other than |
| 0:37.4 | men am I correct or incorrect well we get into that in a second but than that. I thought it was two female characters had to discuss something other than men. |
| 0:38.3 | Am I correct or incorrect? Well, we'll get into that in a second, but first let's introduce the |
| 0:42.8 | podcast. This is the Psychology in Seattle podcast. I am Dr. Kirk Honda. I'm a therapist and a |
| 0:49.4 | professor, and this podcast does not pass the Bechdale test. My name is Umberto Castaneda and I'm a cuckoo clock tamer. |
| 0:56.0 | I am Colin Miller. I live in Dallas and I work for the gay men's mindfulness collective. The Becdell test. So this is a measure, as you were saying, of the representation of women in fiction. And it doesn't have to be just in film. I thought it was just in film. but it is and it's in fiction as well, |
| 1:12.2 | written fiction and other things. |
| 1:13.9 | Named after the American Carp. doesn't have to be just in film. I thought it was just in film, but it isn't. It's in fiction as |
| 1:11.6 | well, written fiction and other things. Named after the American cartoonist Alison Bechdel, |
| 1:16.9 | and the criteria are at least two women who talk to each other about something other than a man, |
| 1:23.8 | and the two women must have a name in the story. And when I first heard about the Bechdel test, |
| 1:30.5 | I don't know what was it 20 years ago, 15 years ago, I started rolling through movies. And I thought, |
| 1:36.3 | nope, that doesn't pass the bet. Because when you say the criteria, it sounds ridiculous. |
| 1:41.2 | To have two women who talk to each other, you're like, why is that so exotic about something other than a man? |
| 1:49.3 | You're like, well, of course. |
| 1:51.4 | There's so many other things to talk about. |
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