Hey, welcome to the Sleeping Outlast podcast. This is the 37th episode and this one is

deeply personal and really special to me. It concludes my mother collection of

songs and I'm just really looking forward to sharing all that went into this

project. So thank you for listening. My name is Ryan and I'm so glad you're here.

Today I'm really honored to talk to you about my song Mother, which is of course the

title track of this little collection of songs that we've been talking about over

the last four episodes. This song actually originally released one year ago in

the weeks right after I lost my mom and I hadn't recorded an episode about this

song because I wrote it so soon after losing her and I just didn't feel able to

to really talk about it or to process it on here. That song was just something

that I felt like I needed to record and at that point I didn't have any plans

to write any songs about grief or loss. This was sort of just a singular moment

of honoring my mom and to put down on some sort of permanent record my love for

my mom. So my original plan, which I think I talked about in maybe the beginning of these

episodes about my mother songs, my original plan was so messy. I believed that I could carry on

and continue writing in my Atlas 3 project, which was a project that I started just shortly

before losing her. But of course I was coming up against all sorts of brick walls. I just couldn't

write anything that fit into any of the projects that I was currently working on. Astronomy,

atoms, Atlas, especially. But these other songs kept surfacing. It's so obvious to me now that

these songs were an integral part of my processing of my grief and they needed to happen before I

could do anything else. And so now one year later as we approach Mother's Day, my second

Mother's Day without my mom, I feel immensely grateful to get to have had this conversation with

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