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You're listening to Behind the Bliss, a weekly podcast where Rachel Autry brings conversations

to you from women that share what's behind their highlight reel.

Each episode is designed for you to see a message from the mess and encourage you to find balance in the bliss.

We know that what you're facing is important for shaping who God has created you to be.

Some may say it's a process that often happens behind the bliss. Here's today's episode.

Hey, Jamie. Hey. Okay, people listening. I told Jamie before we started recording, this is just like a fun phone catch up because we need one of these anyways.

I know. Sitting down together, catching up on life, which is just so funny.

Would you call her friendship unlikely?

It's not unlikely.

It just was like, it was one of those wild potential internet friendships that actually

ended up working out in real life.

Well, it's one of those things that people say, the internet is not real,

and you can't cultivate real friendships on it.

And then you do, and you're like, wow, this person is actually like a really good friend,

and it's really authentic.

And I just want to hang out with her all the time.

And you're like, but the internet brought us together.

So basically, we did have the DTR. We're friends more than just the internet.

We are. Okay. So I don't even remember how it happened. Do you remember who told you,

oh, you have to meet Rachel? Because I can't remember who told me like, oh, you have to meet Jamie.

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