Welcome to Literary Friction. I'm Octavia Bright here with my extremely fabulous co-host, Ms. Gary Plit, down the line from Oxford. Hi, Carrie. How you doing?

Hi. I'm better for you introducing me in that spectacular way. I'm good. I'm, I'm a vibe in with the world today, I have to say,

and I'm happy to be here with you. That is an excellent way to feel. How are you? I am croaky.

I've had another virus, which is annoying, but I think I'm coming through it, which is good.

And I think you're in the sexy phase of the croakiness.

That's nice.

That's good.

I'm enjoying him.

Okay, good.

But before we get into it, let's get business out of the way.

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So anyway, back to minisot 35. Welcome and thanks for tuning in. The format for these minisodes between full

shows is, for the next half hour or so, we'll first have an informal conversation about the topic

in hand and anything else that might come up and then recommend some cultural things that we've

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