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Literary Friction - The Lives of Others with Kathryn Scanlan

Literary Friction

Literary Friction

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4.9593 Ratings

🗓️ 26 January 2023

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Portraits of real people abound in books. There are novels that use transcribed conversations, like Sheila Heti’s How Should A Person Be, or fiction based on historical or even living people, like Curtis Sittenfield’s Rodham. Our guest this month is the writer Kathryn Scanlan who joined us from the States to talk about her riveting new novel, Kick the Latch, which is based upon a series of conversations that Kathryn had with a woman named Sonia about her joyful and brutal life as a trainer for racehorses. Lydia Davis called Kick the Latch a “magical act of empathic ventriloquy”, and this show is about literature that engages in similar ways with the lives of others. We’ll be getting into things like the ethics of writing from another life in fiction, the art of biography, and our favourite literary portraits, plus all our usual reading recommendations. Recommendations on the theme, The Lives of Others: Octavia: Lincoln in the Bardo by George Saunders Carrie: Ragtime by E.L. Doctorow General recommendations: Octavia: Avalon by Nell Zink Kathryn: Guston in Time: Remembering Philip Guston by Ross Feld Carrie: Foster by Claire Keegan Find a list of all recommended books at: https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/jan-2023-the-lives-of-others-with-kathryn-scanlan Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/litfriction Email us: litfriction@gmail.com Tweet us & find us on Instagram: @litfriction

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0:00.0

Welcome to Literary Friction.

0:23.5

I'm Carrie Plitt here as always with my co-host Octavia Bright.

0:27.4

Hi, Octavia. How are you?

0:29.4

Hi, Carrie.

0:31.1

I am good, I think.

0:33.9

I am fighting very hard against the January blues and the relentless demands of my

0:39.1

self-assessment tax spreadsheet. And let me tell you, there's a hard battles to be fighting

0:44.4

simultaneously and to win, but I'm doing my best. And today was actually a really good day because

0:50.8

I dropped by the Canongate offices and saw the first proofs of my book

0:55.7

in a beautiful green pile, which was an extremely surreal and kind of astonishing feeling.

1:01.1

And I'm still writing a little bit high off it.

1:03.5

So today has been a good day in spite of the rain, in spite of the grey.

1:08.1

How about you?

1:09.6

That's so exciting.

1:10.6

And I think there is still something so

1:13.3

powerful about the book as an object, isn't there? I always feel that when my author's books

1:18.3

come in. It's like, wow, this thing that was in your head has become a thing. Tangible.

1:25.2

Yeah, that's a much better word for it. You're the writer. I think it's also just this thing. It's the beginning of the process of letting it go, isn't it? It becomes other from you, and then it's out there, and then it's in the hands of other people, and you have to let go of it, which I feel the beginning of that process coming,

1:44.2

and it's very strange but quite exciting. Yeah, I'm so excited to hold it eventually. Oh, my God.

1:50.8

But yeah, I am also fighting the January blues settling into the month. I punctured my bike tire

1:56.9

on my first day back at work, which was a great start. My house is so cold, Octavia, I can't even tell you. I've been sleeping with a hot water bottle and like five layers of socks. You need an electric blanket, my love. I might get one, actually. Get one. I will send you one if you don't get one by the end of the week, okay? Okay. Okay. Thank you. That's so nice of you.

2:17.8

But yeah, in that spirit, I'm choosing to lean into positive, warm, cozy things, cups of tea,

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