Welcome to Literary Friction. I'm Carrie Plitt here, as always, with my co-host Octavia Bright. Hi, Octavia.

Hi, Carrie. So we are recording this in advance, about a month in advance. So instead of asking you how you are and you telling me something that

happened a month ago by the time people are listening, I thought I would ask you what you

are planning to read over the holiday break. That's a very good question, my dear Carrie Plitz.

I have a proof of a fantastic sounding new book called Wolfish by Erica Berry that I'm I'm really excited to read.

I've been saving it as a treat when I finish work for the holiday season. The subtitle is

Wolf's Self and the stories we tell about fear and it looks like the kind of writing I just love,

you know, a mixture of the personal, historical, cultural criticism, the whole lot. So I'm really

looking forward to it. What about you? That sounds great. I am really excited to read Joy Williams's 1988 novel Breaking and Entering, which I have a copy of, which has been released with its original vintage contemporaries cover. It looks incredibly 80s. Love that. It's set in Florida. It's somewhat of a

cult classic. It's been recommended to me by a friend. And it seems like just the kind of sweaty,

hot, humid novel I will need on those cold December days. So I'm looking forward to it.

But onto the show, as I mentioned, we are currently busy stuffing ourselves with candy canes from the tree that we've taken down and reading books over the holiday break.

But we wanted to keep you going with some literary friction.

So this month, we were inspired by one of our new listeners, Charlotte, who tweeted to tell us how much she enjoyed an old

episode. So we're going to play that episode today. It's a show from 2016 that we recorded

with Chris Krause, the author of I Love Dick, which is a classic of feminist literature,

first published by Semiotext in the States in 1997. And we love this conversation, didn't we, Octavia? Oh my God. It was one of my favorites. Yeah. So it's an exciting one to bring to you. I'm not sure about the sound quality, but our listeners seem to be okay with it then. So yeah. And also bear in mind, we were a bit younger and a bit greener in general. In general. 2016 was a different time.

It was a time of innocence.

Yeah.

It was June 2016, so it really was a time of innocence.

Wow.

Yeah.

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