We create these obstacles for ourselves that become a physical obstacle in space as well as being an energetic obstacle.

And it takes up space, takes up room, prevents us from being inspired, from being creative, and for having things come to us with a little bit more ease and flow and peacefulness. Let me let it out. Let it out.

Welcome back to Let It Out. I'm Katie, your host. And this week I have back on the podcast for maybe the fifth time. I'm not even sure.

My good friend, Angie Choi, Angie and I met several years ago for well before I moved to New York.

We met in 2014. And at that time, I was living in Michigan and you helped me

Feng Shui my space there and did the podcast. And then every space subsequently after that,

I moved to a different space in Detroit. And then I moved to the East Village and then to Brooklyn and then here

where I live in LA we've done these episodes and they become a time capsule in a real

moment in time and I'm just so grateful for you and our friendship and several years ago when

we were both living in New York we would meet up every Wednesday and meditate together

in the middle of the day, in the middle of the week,

in the middle of the city, literally.

And it was this really beautiful alone time with others.

We wouldn't even talk that much,

but we would have this catch up of our week.

And we called it, I think, our week our weekday church or it's just this really

special moment at the Rubin Museum. And I'm just so grateful for you, Angie, not only functioning

my apartments, but who you are as a person. And this is going to be a time where we get to catch

up candidly and talk about creativity and spaces and what we've

been doing. And then you can hear me speak really candidly about my space and what I've learned

you know, in the last year of living here. And I'm just so, so grateful that you're here. You are

someone who inspires me so, so much. And you've

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