Mind Hacks: Esther Perel

All In The Mind

ABC Australia

Life Sciences, Science, Health & Fitness

4.5 • 825 Ratings

🗓️ 5 March 2026

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Summary

Introducing All in the Mind's little sister: Mind Hacks. Each week, we'll bring you bonus content with special guests, featuring rapid fire questions about their mental health tips and pet peeves. It's like a psychology version of eff, marry kill!Kicking off our first episode is none other than Esther Perel. What mental health advice would she avoid at all costs?We're going to test this format out over the next few weeks, so let us know what you think, or if there's a guest you'd like us to invite back on the program for Mind Hacks. As always, you can reach us on allinthemind@abc.net.auAnd don't worry, regular All in the Mind episodes will keep dropping every Sunday.

Guest:

Esther PerelPsychotherapist and couples therapistAuthor, The State of Affairs and Mating in CaptivityHost, Where Should We Begin? with Esther Perel

Credits:

Presenter/producer: Sana Qadar
Senior producer: James Bullen
Producer: Rose Kerr
Sound engineer: Michael Grossman

You can catch up on more episodes of the All in the Mind podcast with journalist and presenter Sana Qadar, exploring the psychology of topics like stress, memory, communication and relationships on ABC Listen or wherever you get your podcasts.

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0:00.0	Hey, I'm Sana Khadar. This is Mind Hacks, which is All In The Mind's brand new mini midweek pod.
0:07.7	We are asking the experts that we interview for specific questions, kind of in the vein of the game, F, Mary Kill, but we're doing a way politer version.
0:17.8	We're doing love, hate, avoid. And basically, this is love, hate, and avoid for
0:22.7	mental health. We want to know the people we speak to, what do they do in their own lives to look
0:28.0	after their mental health? We want their hacks. So, episode one is a big one. We're kicking off
0:34.0	with psychotherapist Esther Perrell.
0:39.3	Love.
0:45.4	What is one mental help tool or strategy or practice or peace advice that has made a real difference for you?
0:46.9	One of my teachers said to me, if a couple can no longer laugh, that is often when you know that there isn't much left.
0:57.9	Because we take ourselves so seriously when we are in the midst of our arguments and our fights.
1:05.9	And to have some humor which brings some perspective, which brings some distance, which relativizes it,
1:14.7	a tiny bit gives us tremendous leeway to actually be able to move. Otherwise, we are really stuck.
1:24.0	So it is a thing we don't talk about nearly enough, the importance of humor.
1:29.4	Okay, so one way to measure the health of one's relationship would be, are you still laughing?
1:33.8	Yes.
1:35.0	Hate. What is the biggest stressor in your life currently and how are you managing it?
1:40.5	I have a feeling that something big and ominous is coming upon us.
1:46.0	There's a level of ontological anguish that we are having.
1:51.0	It's like we don't know where is this world going.
1:55.0	Conflicts seem exacerbated.
1:57.0	Polarization is everywhere.
2:03.5	It's very difficult to have some conversations.
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