There was this terror. I was a young boy and I had night terrors.

How old are we?

I was before eight years old.

And the reason why I know before eight years old is because I grew up Mormon and you get baptized when you're eight years old.

And I just remember being excited to be baptized because I was excited to wash away all these things that happened to me as a young boy.

What if I told you one of the best

choreographers and dancers in the world learn mastery through stillness? Welcome back or welcome

to the Finding Mastery podcast, where we dive into the minds of the world's greatest thinkers and doers.

I am your host, Dr. Michael Jervais, by trade and training a high-performance psychologist.

Now, the idea behind these conversations is quite simple, to sit with the

extraordinaries and learn to really learn how they work from the inside out.

Now, today's conversation is with Derikov, under 21's Latin world champion, four-time

Emmy Award winner, six-time Dancing with the stars champion, and one of the most respected

dancers and choreographers on the planet.

I think this feeling of always needing to achieve something, to be successful, to win,

I equated all that with love.

It was like, in order for me to feel love or to feel worthy of love, I had to succeed.

So I wanted to sit with Derek here, not just because of Derek's mastery of craft, which

is undeniable in the world of dance, but for his commitment to mastery of self and how he expresses

that through radical honesty.

There's a moment in my life as an adult. I was experiencing some anger.

I didn't quite understand where it was coming from.

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