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This is CBSI and the world. I'm John Batchelor. I welcome my colleague Jonathan Shanzer,

the executive director of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies. We go to a story that is

passing strange to me.

Suddenly, there is statehood offered something called the Palestinian state.

At the same time, there are announcements that are striking in that it very much looks like payoff.

One is the pay-for-slay program that has been a constant story for many years of the

intransigence of the people's of the Palestinian Authority to acknowledge reality that it lives

in a world of other states and other ideas. However, now, Paphisle is said to be going away.

Not only do I not trust it, I don't understand where this comes from. So, Jonathan, a good

evening to you. Is this directly connected to the idea of a Palestinian state? Was that a condition

that Mr. Starrmer, the Prime Minister of Britain, slipped in at the last moment. Good evening to you.

Good evening, John. It's a bit of a convoluted story, but basically you have a bunch of countries

right now, including those that are members of the Five Eyes, the closest countries to the United

States, those that share the same intelligence that we consume,

that our intelligence community consumes. And they have decided, despite all evidence to the contrary,

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