Hi and welcome to the working songwriter, the show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop.

I'm your host, Joe Pug.

Each episode here, we host a distinguished guest, and we ask them to go deep on their

inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran who spent the early 2000s playing a seven-string guitar unironically,

or else a scrappy upstart, playing a normal six-string guitar right now completely ironically.

This is your show, because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most,

an iron-clad excuse to put off actually writing.

Hey everybody, it's the second Friday of 2025, and I thank you for joining us. This week's show

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