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I think the racism in the theater is,

it just comes from the fact that most of the people

who are making the decisions in the theater world are white people who are used to talking to white people

Used to making art for white people

This is design matters with Debbie Millman.

For 16 years, Debbie has been talking with creative people about what they do, how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking about and working on. On this episode, Debbie talks with Michael R Jackson about his latest musical, which is about a black gay man trying to write a musical.

It's not autobiographical. I think of it as self-referential. Here's Debbie, first with a couple of messages.

I'm a native New Yorker, but since the beginning of the pandemic, I've been living in Los Angeles.

I miss my hometown, but I love having more space more sun and a big garden and almost

nothing makes me happier than tending to the tomatoes and the foxglove and

wildflowers while listening to hours of music.

Sonas Move is the premium portable smart speaker and it accompanies me wherever I go,

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