Hello and welcome to Under the Skin with me Russell Brand, the host of the podcast we're

speaking to Michael Pollan in a minute. He's written some good books. He's latest. This

is your mind on plants. He's an American author, he's a journalist. He's known for the

botany of desire, the omnivores dilemma, but you probably saw him recently in that thing

he'd done about caffeine with Joe Rogan. What did you think of our conversation with

Michael Pollan? He's very nice and calm. He's nice and calm. Yeah.

Are you feeling nice and calm, Jen? It's just tired, can't there's nice and calm?

Both, so part of the way, as long as you're not distressed, they're depressed. Oh. How's that?

Why are you depressed for now? Why is it this week? It's not the same thing.

Are you thinking constantly depressed? Yeah. I know that you've improved. It's a different

kind of situation. Don't try and say you've got a new depression variant, just so you can keep

coming. Anything else, Jen? Do you want to do some banter?

Yeah, kittens are doing well. Would you want to do some banter?

Oh, I thought we just did some, didn't we? Why are you not picking on my depression?

Do some banter at me? You weren't atop that supports something.

Is it backwards, though? Oh, no. Is that the front? No, it's not. That's not the front.

No, you always put like a little tag right under the nape of the neck. That's what you do

with your designer. You wouldn't put it under the Adam's apple.

It's like poking you in the Adam's apple. Well, that little tag. Yeah, you're right.

Jen, I think we're all bit tired. We need some fun. I'm exhausted. I actually are. Yeah.

Why? A bit of pop up. Yeah. What are you going to do, Jen? We need a rest. When are we resting?

Next Friday. Next Friday's the rest. Yeah. Will we make it that far? No.

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