#201 Finding Light (with John Higgs)

Under The Skin with Russell Brand

Russell Brand

Comedy Interviews, Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Comedy

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🗓️ 4 September 2021

⏱️ 12 minutes

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This week I spoke with John Higgs! John is a writer, journalist and cultural historian. He writes extensively about William Blake and counter-cultural figures like Alan Moore and Timothy Leary. "William Blake vs the World" and "The Future Starts Here: Adventures in the Twenty-First Century" are just two examples of his work. I am reading some of John’s books on William Blake at the moment and I’m really enjoying them. In this episode we discuss the magic and mysticism of William Blake and how reading his work can help us understand: the world in a more imaginative way, our various models of reality, the sublime and the divine, counter-cultural figures like the electronic band KLF who set fire to a million pounds, pragmatic optimism, and finding a new approach to dealing with the mysteries of the world! More info: For more information on John’s work and book check out his website: https://johnhiggs.com/ My new meditation podcast Above the Noise is out now only on Luminary, I will be releasing guided meditations every Wednesday, please check out it: http://luminary.link/meditate Elites are taking over! Our only hope is to form our own. To learn more join my cartel here https://www.russellbrand.com/join and get weekly bulletins too incendiary for anything but your private inbox. *not a euphemism Subscribe to my YouTube channel, I post four videos a week including video clips from these episodes! https://www.youtube.com/russellbrand Subscribe to my YouTube side-channel for more wellness and spirituality. https://www.youtube.com/c/AwakeningWithRussell Instagram: http://instagram.com/russellbrand/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/rustyrockets

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to Under the Skin from Loonery. This week I spoke with the lovely writer,
0:04.1	John Higgs. He's a journalist, a cultural historian, he's written extensively about
0:07.8	William Blake, who we chat about all the time and countercultural figures like Alan Moore
0:11.8	and Timothy Leary. He's book William Blake versus the world and the future starts here,
0:15.7	adventures in the 21st century. Just two examples of his work. You should really read
0:19.0	his stuff. I'm reading it. I love it. Now that Under the Skin is available on Apple
0:22.8	Podcasts, please leave a review there. It helps us and we'll read them out. If you'd like
0:27.8	to listen to the rest of this podcast and all my weekly Under the Skin podcast, all you
0:31.2	have to do is subscribe to Lumery on Apple Podcasts or download the Lumery app. Also, I've
0:35.5	got a meditation podcast called Above the Noise, which is out now. Anyway, in this conversation,
0:39.6	we talk about the nodal perspective. I came up with that phrase in Nijen. I don't think so.
0:45.1	This is it. We talk about Adam Curtis. We talk about how growing up in front of a TV made
0:52.9	people passive. It's a good point he makes and like sort of smartphone generation might be
0:57.1	sort of more active and interactive. What did you think about that point? I know it was good.
1:00.8	He's talking about TikTok. People are feeling more connected. So they think that being isolated
1:05.1	is actually quite tragic rather than cool. Although I felt that they will still be subject to the
1:11.2	consumerist forces that the TV generation were subject to anyway. So do you tell us what you think?
1:16.4	Have a listen to it. Trying to achieve a quality with the annihilation of category.
1:21.8	That's not successful. That's exactly right. We're in this era where it turns out we were never
1:27.9	the boss. That's a bit of a fucking idea. What's beneath the surface of people with my ideas
1:34.0	that define our time, the history we're told? Welcome to Russell Brand. And this game.
1:41.2	For example, in the Blake book, I talk a lot about this Swedish mystic, Emmanuel Swedenborg.
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