I think that the holidays feel like frozen noses. I love walking with the dog for long periods of time.

Hopefully it's snowing and you've got to wrap up warm. So I think a frozen nose is a sweaty armpit

because your wrapped up so warm but then you're climbing hamps and heath and you get to the top

and you're like, and then you can see the breath but then your nose is still freezing to touch.

Joy in every sip with red cups now back at Starbucks.

I have read a lot of books about Jesus and when I read books about Jesus, usually they involve the gospels

of course, the parables, maybe the apostles play a role, maybe the doctors and fathers of the church and the

later saints very rarely do they involve a bunch of rap, scally and crazy Englishmen from just a couple of centuries ago.

But that is exactly what we get in the truth and beauty by my friend Andrew Clayvin, a truly beautiful book.

Drew, thank you for coming on. It's a pleasure and thank you for the wonderful blurb you put on the back.

I will say it.

There not only is all the writing in the book eloquent but I think that writing on the back of the book is very eloquent too.

The book is phenomenal. I say this is not flattery, not just because we're friends.

It's just terrific. I just love the book.

Well, thank you and I'll take you seriously since I can't do anything for you.

This is a really weird book. I'm just going to put it out there.

It's a book about you, it's part memoir, it's part theological meditation and it's part literary criticism of the romantic English poet.

Drew, explain yourself. Well, it tells the story in the introduction.

I was talking to your friend, my son, Spencer Clayvin, no relation.

We have this conversation about how weird the gospels are.

One of the things, a lot of Christianity is about shutting Jesus up.

It's about talking about what he did and who he was and what it means for you.

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