Michael Bungay Stanier || How to Begin
The Psychology Podcast
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🗓️ 14 July 2022
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
Today we welcome Michael Bungay Stanier, the Founder of Box of Crayons. He is the author of the best-selling book The Coaching Habit, with over a million copies sold. He was a Rhodes Scholar and in 2019 was named the #1 thought leader in coaching. Michael has a masters degree in Philosophy from Oxford, a law degree and a BA with highest honors from the Australian National University. His latest book is called How to Begin.
In this episode, I talk to Michael Bungay Stanier about how to begin. When we set goals, the most popular framework that often comes to mind is the idea of SMART goals. Instead of starting with what’s measurable, Michael urges us to start with what’s important. He shares his criteria for identifying what a worthy goal is, as well as advice on how to stay committed to that worthy goal. We also touch on the topics of coaching, empathy, change, and community.
Website: www.mbs.works
Twitter: @mbs_works
Topics
02:22 About Box of Crayons
03:20 Michael’s interest and expertise in coaching
07:15 The Coaching Habit
12:20 “SMART goals are dumb”
16:32 What is a worthy goal?
23:19 The magic is in the drafting
25:50 Before action, learn to commit
30:27 Adaptive change vs technical change
33:01 Calling in the directions
37:51 Stick with the journey
43:20 Celebrate the journey
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| 0:00.0 | We unlock our greatness by working on the hard things. |
| 0:08.4 | Hello and welcome to the Psychology Podcast. |
| 0:10.7 | Today we welcome Michael Bungay Stainier on the show. |
| 0:14.1 | Michael is the founder of Box of crayons and is the author of the best-selling book, |
| 0:18.9 | The Coaching Habit, with over a million copies sold. |
| 0:22.1 | He was a Rhodes scholar and in 2019 was named the number one thought leader in coaching. |
| 0:27.3 | Michael has a master's degree in philosophy from Oxford, |
| 0:30.5 | a wall degree, and a BA with highest honors from the Australian National University. |
| 0:35.7 | His latest book is called How to Begin. |
| 0:38.4 | I'm inviting Michael in the show because I'm a big fan of his work in coaching, |
| 0:41.6 | and as I get more into the coaching profession, |
| 0:43.6 | everyone seems to be talking about Michael. |
| 0:45.6 | He's such a good guy and he's funny and really thoughtful about coaching principles. |
| 0:51.3 | In this episode I talked to him about how to begin. |
| 0:54.4 | When we set goals, the most popular framework that often comes to mind |
| 0:58.0 | is the idea of smart goals. |
| 1:00.3 | Instead of starting with what's measurable though, |
| 1:02.6 | Michael urges us to start with what's important. |
| 1:05.0 | He shares his criteria for identifying what a worthy goal is, |
| 1:08.3 | as well as advice for how to stay committed to that worthy goal. |
| 1:11.0 | We also touch on the topics of coaching, empathy, change, and community. |
| 1:16.5 | So without further ado, I bring you Michael Bungay Stainier. |
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