I think I've really evolved to a place now where my understanding of what self-help actually is,

or what a good life actually is, is it's not becoming whoever you want to be.

Hello and welcome to the Psychology Podcast. Today I'm really excited to introduce you to this

podcast in Prove Jam. This is an idea that Mark Manson and I had at a party a couple of weeks ago.

We're like, you know what? We should just sit down and have a chat and whatever comes up comes up.

We have so many mutual interests so we'd assume that a lot of interesting things would come up.

And a lot of interesting things did. In this episode I talked to best-selling author and badass self-help

guru Mark Manson about things such as what makes social media so polarizing. Why are self-help

quote so cheesy? Are all pickup artists narcissists? And does free will exist? We also cover topics

such as relationships, politics, self-esteem, and neurodiversity. This was a really broad and rich

chat with mother fucker Mark Manson who uses the word fuck in almost all of his books. So anyway,

I really hope you enjoy this chat as much as I did. We had a blast. So let's get right into it.

How are you, man? I'm good. How are you? I'm good. I'm good. I got this new shirt just for this

occasion. Oh shit. I'm putting the top one. Hope that people can handle this. Oh my god. We're

getting serious. We sure are. We sure are. Let me give some context to people. This is an

unplanned, unscripted, well I mean it was planned but it's unscripted chat about whatever comes up

even though I made a little bit of a list of some topics. I put together some items too.

We should add that the only rule is that we're not allowed to talk about either of our books.

That's right. That's right. Yeah. Thank you for thank you for writing that clarification.

So Mark, actually I was wondering what were you like as a child? When I was particularly young,

I was pretty happy to go lucky and then my family life started to go south. I think around

age 9 or 10 and then I became quite rebellious and a little bit of a shithead starting around then.

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