Mehdi Hasan on Suella Braverman, winning the argument, and US fascis
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Owen Jones
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🗓️ 17 March 2023
⏱️ 26 minutes
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Summary
Mehdi Hasan is second to none when it comes to debating, and so his new book - Win Every Argument - is a must read. Here, he talks to me about why the left can be so bad at convincing people of its arguments; he tears Tory racism to pieces; points out the outrageous hypocrisy of the BBC over Gary Lineker - and warns that US democracy may yet succumb to fascism.
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| 0:00.0 | Please like and subscribe. |
| 0:01.0 | One honor to have the brilliant Mediassan, |
| 0:03.9 | who I love to bits, |
| 0:05.1 | even though he fled the country back in 2015, |
| 0:08.1 | as this country descended into the States, |
| 0:10.8 | as I always say, of burning skip. |
| 0:12.5 | So could have done with you here, Medi. |
| 0:14.6 | I'll be honest with you. |
| 0:15.4 | Anyway, he's got a new book out called Win Every Argument, |
| 0:19.9 | the Art of Debating, Persuading and Public Speaking, |
| 0:23.4 | which makes sense because there's no better. |
| 0:25.2 | I would say Debater, Persuader and Public Speaker, out there. |
| 0:30.0 | You're very kind, the checks and the mail. |
| 0:31.8 | Medi, right. |
| 0:34.3 | Firstly, do you obviously ever get this book, |
| 0:35.8 | which is a best seller in the New York Times |
| 0:37.8 | for the second week running? |
| 0:38.9 | You cheeky, you cheeky get. |
| 0:41.1 | And so let's just start, actually, |
| 0:43.4 | I, you know what, I don't want this to be a loving. |
| 0:45.7 | Right. |
| 0:46.5 | I mean, I've just showered you the phrase. |
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