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The Owen Jones Podcast

'The Nazis Were Socialists!': Debunked Once And For All

The Owen Jones Podcast

Owen Jones

Politics, Government, News & Politics, News

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 16 March 2023

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

You've heard this claim peddled by conservatives time and time again - that the Nazis weren't really right-wing, but were actual socialists. The latest example appears in the Daily Mail, and it is a ridiculous nonsense. As I show, the Nazis were driven by a burning hatred of what socialism is commonly understood to mean. They were helped to power by right-wing parties and big business, and their policies were right-wing ideas taken to extreme conclusions. This pernicious myth needs to be taken to pieces once and for all.

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0:20.1

This is the lie which will not die.

0:22.7

The absurd historical revisionism

0:25.7

that the Nazis were socialist.

0:28.0

This is a penacious myth which is peddled by the right.

0:31.2

Often just to troll people on the left.

0:34.0

The latest addition to this genre is an article written by Peter Hitchens

0:38.5

in the Daily Mail.

0:39.4

Hitchens who went from being on the Revolutionary Left to a Conservative.

0:43.1

Now, firstly, it is a massive mistake to say the least.

0:47.0

To simply take it face value, how a regime or a political party describes itself.

0:54.8

The Holy Roman Empire, as the old joke goes,

0:57.3

was neither Holy Roman or indeed an empire.

1:00.8

Is Germany called itself the German Democratic Republic?

1:03.6

Does anyone think that was an oasis of democracy?

1:05.8

Likewise, North Korea calls itself officially the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

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