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I'm really honored to be joined by Matthew Desmond,

who is a brilliant sociologist

and also a Pulitzer Prize winning author.

His new book, Poverty by America, is now out

and everyone needs to read it.

It's a brilliant rock and couldn't have more timely.

Hey, Matthew, well, that's my cat.

Just so everyone's watching, he's watching this.

I have two feral cats, one second.

This is one of them.

So this is Rickman.

So when the camera wobbles, just so you know,

there isn't an earthquake or some other dramatic event,

it's just a fact that, oh, pushing it in the face, are you?

Matthew, let's just start, shall we?

Why in countries with huge amounts of wealth and resources,

do you, does poverty, is that very, very basic question?

Why does poverty still exist

when there is actually all the wealth and resources

available to eliminate poverty in its entirety

in a country like the United States?

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