Mayhem at OpenAI + Our Interview With Sam Altman

Hard Fork

The New York Times

Technology

4.5 • 5.2K Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2023

⏱️ 91 minutes

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Summary

Last week, we interviewed Sam Altman. Since then, well, everything has changed. The board of OpenAI, maker of ChatGPT, fired Altman as chief executive on Friday. Over the weekend, it looked as if he might return. On Sunday night, Microsoft hired Altman to lead a new A.I. venture. Who knows what will happen next. Today, an update on a crazy weekend in tech, and our interview with Sam Altman.

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0:00.0	Casey, how's your weekend?
0:02.0	What, there was no weekend.
0:05.0	There was only work.
0:06.0	That was a trick question.
0:08.0	Yeah.
0:09.0	What is happening?
0:11.0	I don't know, man. I am on two hours of sleep. I've been working all weekend and I'm increasingly
0:19.6	certain that we are in fact living in a simulation. I mean, it would be nice if we were living in a simulation
0:25.0	because that would suggest that there is at least some sort of plan
0:27.0	for what might be about to happen next,
0:29.0	but I think recent events would suggest that actually there is not.
0:32.0	Yeah, I had a moment this morning where I woke up and I looked at my phone from my two-hour nap and I was like,
0:38.0	I'm huffing fumes. This can't be real.
0:41.0	I mean, let's just say, like over the course of a weekend open AI as we know it ceased to exist and by the time this
0:49.7	podcast gets put in the air I would believe anything you told me about the future of open AI
0:57.2	up to and including it had been purchased by ETSI and was becoming a maker of hand-crafted coffee mugs.
1:04.4	Honestly, it would not be the strangest thing
1:06.4	that's happened this weekend.
1:08.0	Not remotely, it wouldn't be the top five. I'm Kevin Ruiz, the Tech Columnist for the New York Times.
1:15.0	I'm K. Moon from Platformer, and this is Hard Fork.
1:20.0	This week on the show, one of the wildest weekends in recent memory will tell you everything that happened at Open AI and what's going on with Sam Altman.
1:30.0	And then later in the show, we will present to you our interview with Sam Altman from last week.
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