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Welcome to The Treatment, I'm Elvis Mitchell, my guest, the creator of Madman, and his executive producer, Matthew Weiner. The show has won more Emmy Awards for Outstanding Drama than any show in the history of cable. Its beginning is complement the last seven episodes, starting April 5th. And he's sitting across me, Matt, thanks so much for coming back.

Oh, it's so great to be here, Elvis.

What's so interesting about watching the show

and it's one of these things that a lot of people don't seem to notice

is that Don Draper's clothes haven't really changed.

But you really see it in the first episode of this season that...

That they haven't changed?

Not that much.

I mean, he's not a contemporary guy the way the other characters addressing more of that period.

He's still a little bit behind.

He's, uh, I would not consider it behind.

I would consider it classic.

He is not a fattest.

And I even heard John Hamm actually in an interview talking about Don being out of touch or something like that.

I do not see it that way at all.

I think that Janie and Bryant would disagree with you.

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