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from the vansmedia podcast network this is channels with Peter Kofka.

That is me.

I'm also the chief correspondent at Business Insider.

Today we're talking about video games.

Yes, video games.

The thing that everyone knows is a huge part of the tech and media business, but few people

cover very seriously.

I pay attention to this stuff,

and I definitely pay attention to what Matthew Ball says about this stuff. And what Matthew,

he's an investor and an analyst, also my friend, has been saying for some time may surprise you, which is that the video game business, which was supposed to keep growing and growing and growing,

has stopped growing, and not just for a year,

but for several years. So what's going on? And what does that mean for video games? And what does

that mean for the media business and the tech business? I asked all of those questions to Matthew Ball

myself. Let's go listen now.

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