Hey, this is the moment I'm trying to compliment thanks for listening. Matt Berninger, did I pronounce it right, man?

That's right.

And I'm about it all the time.

Yeah, Berninger.

Is my guest today's the lead singer, one of the major songwriters of the national.

And I got to say, man, I'm nervous because, and I don't get nervous ever, but I'm nervous for two

reasons. One, I really, your music has had a huge impact on me in certain moments of my life.

But, but also, I said this to Getty Lee, like, as I said to Getty, I was like, Getty, I've seen

you seven times. I've watched the documentaries a bunch of times. I own every rush album and I always

have since they first came out. But to rush fans, I don't count as a rush fan because it's not

enough. You know, and I know music matters so much to people. And so I know that like I was listening

to you talk to Amy, man, and I know Amy and I'm an old time till Tuesday person and the person

who set up that interview goes, uh, Amy was in till Tuesday with John Bryan and I started screaming

at the thing like, no, that is she what? So I know someone's going to listen. I'm going to say

something dumb about the national like that Amy was in till Tuesday with John Bryan. So I apologize

to national fanatics. I'm a real fan like I swear, but I'm going to probably say something.

I'm wrong about as you know, I'm wrong about most my own facts. So what does pretend we both know

exactly what we're talking about? Yes, that's it. I just so people understand. So I guess here's

where I wanted to start. I mean, the new album is absolutely brilliant and I was so happy. You know,

I wrote you the first time I played first two pages of Frankenstein. I just kind of freaked out.

I was so happy about how great it is and knowing that what you went through to make it. But I want

to start earlier because I was listening to the old records and I realized when I put on alligator

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