Hello and welcome to the TIFO Football Podcast. I'm Joe, but today I'm just here to introduce to you Seb Staffer Bloor, who is here to introduce to you Jonathan Liu, who is the chief football writer for the Independent.

Today's episode is the first in a new series in which Seb interviews various football journalists.

And the theme of today's episode is Match reporting. So I do hope you enjoy it.

Thank you very much for downloading it. One quick note. The audio quality of today's episode

isn't ideal. It had to be recorded over the phone, so we've done the best we can with it. But

for all future episodes, it's going to sound lovely. So don't worry about it. And if you give it 30

seconds, I promise you, you won't even

notice it. Alex and I will be back next week. But for now, here's Seb.

Hello, welcome to another TFO football podcast. We're going to do something different today.

And we'll be continuing our chats with authors about their books in due course.

Obviously, we can't do one of those each week.

But in the meantime, we're going to record a series of interviews with football journalists, exploring

different aspects of the profession.

And today we're going to start with match reporting.

And so I'm privileged to welcome Jonathan Liu, she sports writer at the Independent of the

pod. Hello?

Hi, Seth.

Thanks.

Thanks for having me.

No, absolutely pleasure, mate. Just before we get into the match reporting side of things.

Tell us a little bit about how you got into the industry.

You started the Telegraph.

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