Hello, and welcome back to part two of my interview with the amazing Joyce Vance.

Joyce and I continue our conversation about what the Trump regime has done to the rule of law and the civil service in this country

and how important reforming the Supreme Court of the United States of America is going to be

if and when we have the opportunity

to save our institutions.

I want to get back to the original topic, but just quickly, as you mentioned, the dismantling of agencies like USAID.

One, that's part of the reason a lot of farmers are going back up because the funds that went into USAID paid American farmers to ship their produce overseas to help struggling communities.

It is the complete abdication of United States soft power, which lowers our standing in the world in many ways.

But it's also just the abject cruelty, because as you said, for pennies on the dollar, we were

saving lives, we were preventing children from dying from easily preventable diseases

and starvation and other things. So it is all of a piece, I think, and that's what we see happening with the

Civil Service. You know, our standing in the world is diminished, which is intangible, but

important. I saw someone post on one of the social media platforms earlier this week and now I've forgotten who it was,

that America is giving off dying mall vibes. And that just breaks my heart.

Yes, indeed. Dying mall vibes. Speaking of which, you know, one of the agendas is to create it, I mean, we're already there, an imperial presidency, but they want a unitary executive.

They want to give Donald all of the power and independent agencies become dependent on the whims of the executive. So I'm talking about the case in which the

corrupt illegitimate supermajority of the Supreme Court seems poised to allow Donald control

over the hiring and firing of people in agencies that heretofore had been independent of executive control. And the case is,

the precedent at risk here is Humphrey's executor, which reigned in executive power. And Chief

Justice Roberts referred to Humphreys as a dried husk.

And getting back to your point, I wanted to read a quote from the brilliant Justice Jackson.

Quote, so having a president come in and fire all the scientists and the doctors and the economists and the PhDs and replacing them with loyalists

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