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Hello, America Mark live in here our number 877-381-3811.

877-381-3811. You know, when the nation was founded, we got our constitution and later we had the first ten amendments, the Bill of Rights.

The first amendment is very, very important, freedom of speech, freedom of speech.

That was in the federal constitution. Interestingly in the states, you could still sue people who slandered you, you could sue them for defamation, libel.

Now this changed over time but it really wasn't until the 1960s in New York versus Sullivan, that is the New York Times.

That's a Supreme Court changed essentially 200 years of history.

That is, you can speak freely but if your speech has the purpose of trying to character assassinate somebody, then you're really undermining free speech.

So if you call somebody a clansman, you better have some serious facts.

If you call somebody a white supremacist, you better have some real facts. You better have some evidence.

If you accuse somebody of mastermining a coup plot, you better have some facts.

Clarence Thomas is right, that that decision was a disaster. You can have free speech but the problem we're giving and allowing entities or individuals since 1965 anyway, to pretty much say whatever they want to say.

It really doesn't contribute to free speech. Particularly if you're in the media or you pretend to be analyzing the media, it does enormous damage to the first amendment, enormous damage.

And so it is, I wasn't going to bring this up to you but I will. This website Media Matters is a character assassination project funded by dark money from wealthy Democrats.

It's given a tax exempt status by the Internal Revenue Service based on representations it makes to the Internal Revenue Service in its mission statement.

We have a board member on cumulus, a publicly held company. And I've been working in this position since ABC radio news and Citadel and then cumulus and so forth.

A board member who has been tied to media matter certainly in the past at a rather senior level. Isn't that astonishing? Considering all the conservative stations and hosts, that cumulus owns.

But there's a headline there that says a Fox host who apparently helped mastermind John Eastman's coup plot was the only one talking about it in prime time.

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